When Chris Paul goes to a new team, that team gets better. Hornets (0.220 W% to 0.463 W%) Clippers (0.390 W% to 0.606 W%) Rockets (0.671 W% to 0.793 W%) OKC (0.598 W% to 0.611 W%) Phoenix Suns (0.466 W% to 0.720 W%)

当克里斯保罗加入一个新的团队时，这个团队的记录会变得更好。加入黄蜂前胜率22%，加入后高达46.3%；加盟快船前胜率39%，加盟后高达60.6%；加盟火箭前胜率67.1%，加盟后上升到79.3%；加盟雷霆前胜率59.8%，加盟后上升到61.1%；加盟孙前胜率为46.6%，加盟孙后上升至72%。

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[]faithdies 1936 指標 13小時前

是的，他是一个霍费尔和有史以来最好的纯PG之一。

是的，他将来会进入名人堂，也是历史上最强的纯控卫之一。

[]NoLivesEverMattered 47 指標 8小時前

CP3甚至被低估了一点。令人惊讶的是，他在35岁左右还能保持这种状态。

保罗甚至有点被低估了。神奇的是他35岁左右的时候那么凶。

[]Nets AlmostCurvy 307 指標 8小時前

我不会对那些把他排在前5名的人生气

篮网球迷：如果有人把他排进历史前五的控卫，我觉得他没有错。

[]Raptors cooldudeman007 98 指標 6小時前

我会生任何一个不把他排在前五的人的气

猛龙球迷：如果有人觉得他不是历史前五的控卫，我觉得他没毛病。

[]Force OfChill 31 指標 4小時前*

魔术师，斯托克顿，奥斯卡，斯蒂芬，伊塞亚。那就轮到基德/纳什/保罗了

魔术师、斯托克顿、罗伯森、库里、伊塞亚托马斯，然后是基德、纳什和保罗谁爱谁。

[]Nuggets Betaateb 33 指標 4小時前

你必须把保罗放在纳什之上。纳什有一段绝对疯狂的精彩表演，但他在联盟中花了6年时间才达到那个水平。CP3在加入联盟一年后与纳什竞争。

不要误会，纳什一直都很棒，但是在任何名单中，你都必须把CP3放在他之上(哪怕只是一点点)。纳什有他的最有价值球员赛季，这是CP3从未有过的，但他受益于在勒布朗之前获得他的最有价值球员。2005年的最有价值球员和2012年的最有价值球员(自从那一年成为德里克罗斯勒布朗组合终结者后被选中)是两种截然不同的野兽，依我看。

掘金球迷：保罗肯定领先纳什。纳什的顶级表现确实很强，但他也是在联盟训练六年后达到这个水平的。保罗在纳什进入联盟仅一年后就在巅峰时期与他竞争。

不要曲解我的意思，纳什绝对是历史上的强者，但不管是什么名单，保罗一定是在纳什之前(哪怕只是微胜一负)。纳什获得了MVP，这是保罗从来没有过的，但我认为纳什利用了詹姆斯的失败达到了他的巅峰。05年的MVP和12年的MVP差别很大(詹姆斯和罗斯都以对方为荣)。

[]howyoureellyfeel

14 指標 3小時前

Ehh you could really go either way I don't think it's fair to say you have to put Paul over Nash. I agree about the MVPs, 2005 didn't have nearly the competition for MVP that CP3 faced in his best seasons. But that Suns offense was so so good because of Nash. Not downplaying D'Antonis coaching or any of the supporting cast but man Steve Nash ran that offense to perfection. Yeah Paul has longevity in terms of his elite seasons, of but Nash still averaged 11 assists until he was 38 and even then it was because of injuries that he didn't. Not to mention he averaged 49/43/90 for his career. That is such an insane feat, especially to be done before this modern era of efficiency. I wouldn't fight with someone putting CP3 over Steve Nash, but I don't think you can definitively call it either way.

呃，这还真没那么绝对，我觉得非得把保罗排在纳什之上是不合理的。你关于MVP部分的论述我赞同，05年的竞争确实和保罗最强赛季所面临的竞争差很多。可是当年的那支太阳正是因为纳什的存在而变得如此之出色啊。我不是在抹杀德安东尼和太阳其他球员的贡献，可是纳什当时对进攻的支配实在是太完美了。没错，保罗巅峰期的延续性更持久，但纳什到了38岁依然有场均11次的助攻，更何况他整个职业生涯的三项命中分别是49%、43%和90%。这是一项极其卓越的成就，而且这还是在如今这个讲究效率的时代之前做到的。我不会和那些觉得保罗比纳什强的人争论，但我觉得这不能绝对化。

[–]Gran Destino loudanduneducated 142 指標 8小時前

Honestly I would have a tough time saying/agreeing with Steve Nash over Chris Paul.

Watched both of their careers, and CP3 brought more overall to the table IMO. I would have him over Stockton too. Probably in the 3-4 range

讲真，要说纳什比保罗强，我还真挺难认同的。

看看他俩职业生涯表现就知道了，我觉得保罗的整体贡献更多。我甚至觉得他还在斯托克顿前面，或许能排到历史第三第四。

[–]lockethe1 31 指標 7小時前

Over Stockton? Cmon now. Go look up videos of the original Isiah Thomas talking about Stockton, or Steve Kerr. Chris Paul is amazing and the best pure PG of this era but Stockton is a top 3 all time.

在斯托克顿前面？得了吧。你去看看早期托马斯或科尔评价斯托克顿的视频就明白了。保罗很出色，他是这个时代最强的纯控卫，但斯托克顿是历史前三的。

[–][CHI] Ben Gordon COLDCREAMYMILK 1155 指標 15小時前*2

Paul is a top 5 PG All Time in my personal rankings. Complete PG package, defense, steals, one of the greatest court visionaries ever.

EDIT:  My top 5 PG's, no order: Isiah, Magic, CP3, Stockton, Curry

Honorable Mentions: Nash, AI, Kidd, Oscar, Parker.

公牛球迷：我的历史前五控卫里有保罗。他的控卫技能太全面了，还有抢断和防守，他的场上视野也是历史最强之一。

编辑：我的个人历史前五控卫：托马斯、魔术师、保罗、斯托克顿、库里（不分先后）。

荣誉提名：纳什、艾弗森、基德、罗伯逊和帕克。

[–]Bulls HumanOfTheYear2013 42 指標 7小時前

Chris Paul really should've won the MVP the year that Kobe did... This is probably a more controversial take than it should be because it was Kobe's sole MVP, but CP3 led a NOLA team to the 2 seed with Tyson Chandler and David West as his second and third options. Kobe was working with Pau, Bynum, Odom, and a pretty deep bench.

Even at the time, there was a lot of criticism that it was given to Kobe as a "lifetime achievement award" even though Paul had objectively the better season.

公牛球迷：科比得到的那个MVP真应该是保罗的……这个话题的争议性还是很大的，毕竟那是科比唯一的常规赛MVP，但那个赛季的保罗在身边二当家和三当家分别是钱德勒和韦斯特的情况下把新奥尔良带到了西部第二。而科比的帮手则是加索尔、拜纳姆、奥多姆和一套很有深度的板凳阵容。

哪怕是当年，也有很多批评说MVP颁给科比有“终身成就奖”的性质，客观来说，那个赛季保罗的表现更好。

[–]Grizzlies Lavaden 10 指標 6小時前

2008 CP3 was the best all-around pg I have seen with my own eyes. Man could do literally everything.

灰熊球迷：07/08赛季的保罗是我亲眼见过的最全能控卫，他几乎是无所不能。

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[–]blovenant 12 指標 11小時前

He’s honestly just a smaller version of Lebron honestly. Everywhere he goes he instantly makes the team better and really controls games the way Lebron does. If CP was as big as LBJ I think they would be the same player lol

保罗其实就是个小号詹姆斯。不管他去哪儿，都能立马让所在球队变强，而且他确实是像詹姆斯那样控制着比赛。如果保罗块头和詹姆斯一样，我觉得他俩应该是一样的球员，哈哈哈

[–]Bulls Kindofadbag 4 指標 9小時前

Something about calling anyone a "mini-LeBron" makes it sound like a dumb take to me, but I completely agree with it. He elevates every team he touches, no matter what. He needs to get a ring though.

公牛球迷：以前我听到谁谁谁说某个球员是“迷你勒布朗”就觉得很蠢，不过这次我完全赞同。甭管咋说，保罗去哪儿都能提升球队实力。不过他需要一个冠军。

[–]Magic EmperorKyoka 156 指標 10小時前

Probably the best modern day point guard. I view curry more as a combo guard.

魔术球迷：他也许是最强的现代控卫，库里在我看来更像是双能卫。

[–][GSW] Stephen Curry azmanz 100 指標 8小時前

Just because Kerr hates the P&R doesn't make Curry a SG. With any other coach Steph would have the time of possession as other PGs.

勇士球迷：你不能因为科尔讨厌挡拆就觉得库里是分卫啊。你换成其他任何教练，库里的持球时间都不会比其他控卫差。

[–][MIL] Malcolm Brogdon Bart_Dart 175 指標 8小時前

Steph is also like the greatest off-ball player of all time, though. I think that is a good argument for him being a combo guard. There's no right answer. He's really unique. He's not a PG or SG. He's Steph

雄鹿球迷：不过库里也是史上最强的无球者。我觉得这也是说他是双能卫的论证之一。这确实没有定论，库里真的很独特，他不是控卫也不是分卫。他就是库里。

[–]San Francisco Warriors onecrispynugget19 30 指標 8小時前

Yea he puts fear into the other team by just running around the court and never standing still without the ball.

勇士球迷：没错，库里无球是从不是站着不动的，他单靠跑动就能让对手害怕。

[–]boozinandsnoozin 7 指標 7小時前

Friendly discussion: i think curry changed the point guard position, so now point guards are more valued if they’re like curry. so if you’re talking about modern day pg, i think curry is that guy. CP3 is a great 2000s PG. That aside, if you could only choose one to be on your team, i think curry is the obvious choice.

友好讨论：我觉得库里改变了控卫位置，所以如今的控卫要是像库里的话就会更有价值。如果要讨论现代控卫的话，我觉得库里就是那个人。保罗是21世纪前十年的顶级控卫。要是让你在他俩之间只选一个加入你的主队的话，我觉得库里就是那个明显的选择。

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[–]Suns phd2k1 18 指標 10小時前

I was really on the fence because I love Rubio and Kelly Oubre, but CP3 is just on another level. So glad we got him.

太阳球迷：保罗刚加盟我日的时候我其实蛮不确定的，因为我很喜欢卢比奥和乌布雷，但保罗确实是他俩比不了的。得亏我们得到了他。

[–]jay754 437 指標 11小時前

CP3 does not get the credit he deserves. Dude has turned every franchise around.

保罗没有得到应有的认可。不管到哪儿，他都能让球队改头换面。

[–][DET] Bill Laimbeer Herrenos 119 指標 10小時前

He's got pretty good stats, but what makes him a superstar is stuff you have a hard time seeing on stat sites and highlights.

活塞球迷：他的数据很漂亮，但成就他超巨地位的，是那些你很难通过数据和集锦看出来的素质。

[–]Lakers okey_dokey_bokey 6 指標 8小時前

I don't know how anyone could doubt him after last year especially.

湖人球迷：真不知道怎么会有人质疑他，尤其是在上赛季之后。

[–]Bucks Deuce_GM 3 指標 6小時前

Imagine your life if Stern never vetoed that trade

雄鹿球迷：假如斯特恩当年没有否决那笔交易……

[–]Lakers Zepest 24 指標 9小時前

Goddamn it David Stern

湖人球迷：天杀的斯特恩